TheBadGuy235 (June 30, 2008 at 1:51 am)

sadly, the only thing that i think will come of this is jobbing to someone who's name starts with an 'S' and ends in 'uperman'damnit i hate DC's characterization in the last ten years

allankles (June 29, 2008 at 6:47 am)

I agree (in part) about the company respect of DS vs Thanos but in recent times DS has gotten respect (minus the fake weird fight with Orion recently). He used the soul fire equation to become more powerful than the Source recently and of course with the 5th world potentially in the future who knows.

TheBadGuy235 (June 29, 2008 at 3:49 am)

pretty much said it all there

vilbobaggins666 (June 29, 2008 at 3:48 am)

hearing that about lois is interesting, considering peter's marriage in '87 was definitely a factor in the decision for supes' marriage because of the precedent that it set. and you're right. mephisto's never really been a big spidey villain in the past i dont think. he didnt have a legitimate beef, and like you said, he didnt get much out of the deal. i just hate the example it sets: its bad to let your old, and basically dead, aunt die but its okay to make a deal with the devil. i hate that

TheBadGuy235 (June 29, 2008 at 3:42 am)

oh i hear ya there, and you may not be far off. there's rumors they're going to kill Lois in final crisis making it sorta their spin on OMDand i love Mephisto as a villain, but ya know.....i'd imagine the Devil has better things to do than just take one guy's marriage.....i mean he didn't even get a soul out of it if i'm not mistaken

vilbobaggins666 (June 29, 2008 at 3:41 am)

i know right?! OMD should have been called WTF considering what it did for continuity in the marvel universe. literally EVERYTHING got fucked around. i really hope mephisto turns out to be a skrull or something and this all gets negated within the next year, but probably wont happen because quesada's a tool. the marriage was a milestone in comics when it happened, and another example of peter's growth into adulthood, but joe went and dicked it around. what next superman breaks up with lois lane?

TheBadGuy235 (June 29, 2008 at 3:32 am)

oh i know how pissed off you are about OMD because i am too. it seems the bulk of fans actually LIKE the marriage with MJ, but noooooooooo Quesada's gotta make it like he was when he was a kid

vilbobaggins666 (June 29, 2008 at 3:30 am)

yea, thats why i respect a lot of what he's doing now, like with Spider-Woman- he brought her out of obscurity after 10-20 years, reigniting a lot of old Spider-Woman fans, just to reveal her as a Skrull about a month or so ago. he brought her back in a big role for that one reason and still pulled it off well you have no idea how pissed i was (and still am) at the whole One More Day Spider-Man thing a few months ago. its just one example of the kind of thing that should NEVER happen in comics

TheBadGuy235 (June 29, 2008 at 3:11 am)

i get you mean, plus the SI stuff makes sense due to the Annhilation Wave practically destroying the Skrull Empire. i just don't go in big for the retcons. "OMG! for years (insert character's name) has secretly been a Skrull!" just kinda insulting in away, like "The clone is the real Spider-Man" or "Yeah....you know Hal Jordan going bad? wasn't him.....giant yellow fear alien"

vilbobaggins666 (June 29, 2008 at 3:08 am)

i just really, really love his ultimate spider-man, and even his avengers, though admittedly less. secret invasion is great so far though, and his daredevil run was probably the best since frank miller's (lol, back when miller was a good writer).idk, i just really respect the scpe of what bendis has done. with secret invasion hes basically topping off four years of quality storyline with a heap of EPIC-ness. and his dialogue is just so entertaining to me. i def see what you're talkin about tho